Benn Jordan on Flock, privacy, and the new surveillance backlash
Musician and researcher Benn Jordan has become a prominent voice in the debate over surveillance technology, specifically regarding Flock Safety's license plate readers. His investigative work has contributed to increased scrutiny and contract cancellations for the company by local governments.
Why it matters
The story highlights the growing public and legislative backlash against private surveillance networks in the United States.
Today, I’m talking with Benn Jordan, musician, YouTuber, researcher, and investigative journalist. You might know Benn from those first two titles — he’s got a prolific discography of experimental music dating back decades. But in the last couple of years, he’s become a high-profile face in the creator and media spaces for his work investigating Flock Safety, the maker of automatic license plate readers and the software that powers them. Benn recently testified in front of Congress , at a hearing the Senate Judiciary Committee’s Subcommittee on Crime and Counterterrorism held, dedicated to Flock and other ALPR systems. This hearing felt like the culmination of months and months of growing criticism and bipartisan backlash against Flock — all of which is taking a shape similar to the pushback against AI data centers. Verge subscribers, don’t forget you get exclusive access to ad-free Decoder wherever you get your podcasts.
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